Minutes

Attending: Matthew Brookover, Judith Bush, Janemarie Duh, Matthew Economou, Heather Flanagan, Eric Goodman, Mary McKee, Steven Premeau, Mark Rank, Keith Wessel

With (Also Starring): David St. Pierre Bantz, Netta Caligari, Sara Jeanes, Johnny Lasker, Nicole Roy, David Walker, Albert Wu, Steve Zoppi

Regrets: Les LeCroix

Status Updates - Q&A

• T&I and Ops Updates
  • The Federation Manager is moving to AWS on 9/29
    • This will enable more-real-time metadata updates in the future.
      
    • There will be a not very long outage to move the data.
  • Baseline Expectations 2
    
    • Bi-weekly notices to the organizations not meeting BE2 have been resumed.
      
    • BE2 Dashboard: https://spaces.at.internet2.edu/display/be/
  • NIH
    • NIH's requirements will be put in place next week.
• International Update, SeamlessAccess, and Browser Changes Updates
• Working and liaison group updates - including 2021 plan items
  • CTAB Update
  • Fed 2.0 update to TAC

  • Fed Test WG Update

Federation testing charter 

• We should address Janemarie’s sponsor role as she rolls off the TAC, perhaps next year to include new members.

Develop/review Deployment Profile rollout roadmap/materials

• We discussed Keith's draft web page: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZZ-g6_A99GPI24wP6XoJdrFGguFfN0EzKCMh3cMisz8/edit?usp=sharing
• Not all content is there yet, but the structure is, and would like suggestions for the content
  
• Indicate when (or what caused) already-adopted things.
  • Also when future events are expected/targeted.
• The idea is to evolve into an implementation/adoption resource portal, similar to: https://spaces.at.internet2.edu/display/federation/get-nih-ready
• Page should be high-level with enough information to understand issues, but plans should be linked. This will be evolutionary as the information increases/evolves.

IAM Online materials review

• Slides for next week's IAM Online looks good to everyone.
• The presentation will be expanded for CAMP (when there’ll be more time)

(re)introduction to committee election process/cycle

• Janemarie Duh, Matthew Economou, Mary McKee are eligible to roll off this cycle.
• Process
  • Netta will be putting Google Forms up next week to manage this.
  • New members will be chosen in November.
  • Officers will be chosen next year (including new members).
• In the past, we often haven’t gotten much information from candidates about why they want to be on TAC. We can add an additional question about this.
  
• Include some information about representation (SP, liberal arts college, research org, etc.).
  • Last year's spreadsheet with the categories: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yll-9wD3apxLjBSvaeq3hAv1hvcH6kT3RrBEOjSXn1w/edit#gid=0 

Happenings with eduroam

• We’re updating eduroam’s (US) infrastructure.
• This will include a new administration console in the Federation Manager.
  • There will be a new eduroam admin role, analogous to the federation site admin role.
    
    • The eduroam admin for your institution can be found in the FM.
  • They're looking for beta testers, 25-30 schools. Let Sara know if you're interested.

Around the table - Happenings in the community

• Cirrus Identity and Microsoft gave and IAM Online presentation yesterday about Cirrus's tools for integrating Azure into the federation.
• (Ran out of time...)

EMail Updates

Slides for next week's IAM Online

Hey, all,

You'll see this on this week's TAC agenda which will be coming out tomorrow, but I wanted to get this in everyone's inboxes today if I could.

The IAM Online from the various InCommon working groups is next week, and I wanted to share the contents of the slides I'll be presenting for the TAC. Please forgive the formatting; it needs help, and I've asked Netta and others to help with that. If you can ignore the bad formatting and focus on the content, I welcome your feedback.

https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/13PQKmHjGZrWH8SWB8x8b3ZN6uA7bDrQUX1CBLsJbWGQ/edit?usp=sharing

We only have 10 minutes for our section. So, I'll be staying high level on the 2021 work plan items. I'll probably just say a sentence or two about each and get people interested enough to learn more at CAMP.

Thanks for any feedback,
Keith

CTAB Update

CTAB update (or at least starter version; David can add/update/clarify).

• BE2
  • Adoption plateauing recently.
  • Small upticks after each email notification.
  • Ongoing discussion of (future) CTAB response to locations that fail to meet
    • Esp related to encryption support; how much guidance and/or leeway to provide
    • How to/when to invoke dispute resolution process
  • Held office hours Aug 31, some debrief
• Some discussion of entity category ongoing discussions
  • SA categories (anonymous, pseudonymous)
  • R&S 2.0

Deployment Profile Adoption Draft

Hi again, all,

I have an item on the agenda tomorrow about next steps for communication around the deployment profile adoption. I’ve put together some rough text for a web page. Still more needing to be filled in, including specific requirements that have and will be adopted, but I wanted everyone to have time to see this before tomorrow’s call.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZZ-g6_A99GPI24wP6XoJdrFGguFfN0EzKCMh3cMisz8/edit?usp=sharing

Albert or David, can you also add this link to tomorrow’s pre-reads?

Thanks,

Keith

Fed 2.0 update to TAC

The active members of the working group has been meeting between scheduled bi-weekly meetings to refine text on the final draft. At this point there’s a concern that the urgency is not clear, and the call to individual federation leadership to engage is not strong enough. We have two scheduled drafting meetings to work on the urgency before meeting on Wed  the 15^th. At this point, it’s likely the 7 minute CAMP lightning talk will be to present the call to action and note that consultation is beginning.

judith

International, SeamlessAccess, and Browser Interactions updates

International / REFEDS 
43rd REFEDS meeting - Registration is open (https://refeds.org/meetings/43rd), scheduled for 30 September 2021. Current plans are to focus exclusively on REFEDS Strategic Planning and R&S 2.0. Please register!

R&S 2.0
The Working Group is almost ready to release the Personalized Entity Category for consultation. The group finished its guidance for Service Providers, but felt that a bit more information on signaling assurance (including how to signal no assurance) was needed. The goal (again) is to have a consensus call on our next working group call, and if that is positive, then it will go out for consultation during a time period that overlaps the REFEDS, CAMP, and ACAMP meetings, thus allowing for some additional discussion regarding the spec.

SeamlessAccess
The SeamlessAccess Outreach Committee is working on an FAQ that describes the upcoming access issues related to the planned browser changes. While in review now, we hope to share that far and wide within the next four weeks.

The WAYF Entry Disambiguation working group is also at a point where they are finishing up a description of the problem (with examples) such that they can share that with the world. In parallel, the group is considering short-, medium-, and long-term mitigations for handling WAYF entry collisions.

Browser Interactions
The fedidcg is, as most new groups do, establishing a common terminology for what is "sanctioned tracking" vs "unsanctioned tracking" (starting from definitions provided in ttps://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/unsanctioned-tracking/) and establishing user stories of actions that are unquestionably "sanctioned" or unquestionably "unsanctioned." By defining the boundaries and setting an absolute truth, more ambiguous scenarios can be compared against them to help decide what and where the group should focus its efforts.

Fed Test WG Update

How did it get to be 12:50 ET already?

Keith and I have been emailing. I'll be working on the charter revision next week since I'm the sponsor.

        Janemarie