CTAB Call of Oct. 3, 2023

 Attending:

• David Bantz, University of Alaska (chair)
• Ercan Elibol, Florida Polytechnic University
• Richard Frovarp,  North Dakota State 
• Eric Goodman, UCOP - InCommon TAC Representative to CTAB
• Mike Grady, Unicon  
• Johnny Lasker, Internet2
• Kyle Lewis,  Research Data and Communication Technologies 
• Jon Miner, University of Wisc - Madison (co-chair)  
• Andy Morgan, Oregon State University
• Andrew Scott, Internet2
• Ann West, Internet2
• Albert Wu, Internet2 

Regrets

• Pål Axelsson, SUNET 
• Warren Anderson, LIGO 
• Tom Barton, Internet2, ex-officio
• Matt Eisenberg, NIAID 
• Scott Green, Eastern Washington U
• Meshna Koren, Elsevier 
• Rick Wagner, UCSD 
• Kevin Morooney, Internet2 
• Emily Eisbruch, Independent, scribe

Discussion

• Internet2  Intellectual Property reminder

Working Group updates

• • CACTI
    • eduVPN in New Zealand - https://www.eduvpn.org/  - part of GEANT
      
    • TechEx breakfast open meeting
      • Work overview
      • A bunch of discussion surrounding next generation credentials working group
        
        
  • RAF2.0 Working Group
    • All public consultation comments reviewed
    • Plan to get RAF 2.0 to Steering Committee next week or week after
    • At TechEx received good feedback from a community member that RAF 2.0 seems easier to implement than RAF 1.0
      
      
  • InCommon TAC
    • (Eric G. was not present)
    • 2024 planning
    • Federation proxies working group will spin up
      May augment or alter the federation trust model, understanding the role of proxies, This may come back to CTAB, has baseline expectations implications 
    • AARC Blueprint - lots of useful guidelines on architecture, policies and deployment guidance, could potentially be useful and inform future baseline expectations work
    • Entity Categories of interest (closely related to CTAB discussion on entitlements/authZ). Open Science initiative work is pertinent. How to indicate service entitlements is important, (for example, who is a designated health care worker)
      
      
  • SEPWG (Sirtfi Exercise Planning Working Group)
    • Call for Participation window closed: 17 signups, more than last year
    • Communications check in 2 weeks (with their security contacts)
    • Training/Orientation for exercise Points of Contact at each organization to start 23 Oct
    • At TechEx, Kyle talked to community members who plan to join this effort next year. 

Recruiting for CTAB

•  Deadline has been extended, use this form https://forms.monday.com/forms/d4029d18190a0cb2306dd4abe1444002?r=use1
• If your CTAB term is expiring, you can renominate yourself: David, Jon, Meshna and Andy
  •    4 nominations for CTAB currently received. One from a returning member, three new candidates
•   Had hoped to have some new CTAB members representing service providers
•  After CTAB / InCommon TAC meeting at TechEx, there was a comment that the name CTAB is confusing
• Outreach to Tribal colleges could be a goal for CTAB moving forward
• There is a minority serving cyberinfrastructure grant https://internet2.edu/minority-serving-cyberinfrastructure-consortium-awarded-nearly-15-million-nsf-grant/
  • Ana Hunsinger, PI, has engaged some of the catalysts on this.
  • Suggestion to help HBCUs and tribal colleges to use the Cirrus Identity bridge
  • CTAB can monitor this work
• CTAB should look at skill sets needed for the upcoming work as we do recruiting for CTAB members
  
  

TechEx Recap

• Lots of great energy and collaborations
• ACAMP 2023 Notes:  https://spaces.at.internet2.edu/display/ACAMP/ACAMP+Unconference+2023+Home 
• Federation sessions were well attended
• International attendance was good, despite the fact there was not a REFEDs meeting at this TechEx  

•  Session on Azure proxy for InCommon Federation with over 110 attendees. Broad interest  https://internet2.edu/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/techex23-azureadproxy-johnson.pdf
• Important theme: signaling, needing a way to communicate capabilities between IDP and SP, prior to authentication
• Some lack of questions from the community at some IAM sessions; perhaps because this stuff is hard to understand
• Knowledge: how do we pass on and spread the IAM Knowledge?
  • Session on “Where does IAM knowledge need to live/improve?”
  • https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yg51a8arVX-drLUwd5bMmlyU6xc05xDoJxXQZ4Qi-mk/edit
  • Loss of knowledge can occur when IAM gets outsourced
  • How to get more people into the tent?
  • How to help the community make the right decisions around IAM?
• We need to document the assurance requirements needed for compliance, connects to student aid requirements.
• NIH provided some “stick” in their requirements added about 3 years ago
• Other federal agencies are following along, but there is lack of uniformity across what each agency asks for
• can we help each agency understand RAF?
•  SAIG - student portal for federal education aid, 
• it would be good to get them on board with federation and best practices
•   https://fsawebenroll.ed.gov/PMEnroll/index.jsp
• Another reason why student aid is interesting: https://www.forbes.com/sites/emmawhitford/2022/11/03/student-loan-scams-stole-an-estimated-5-billion-from-americans-this-year/?sh=7a4285bb66f5

Next CTAB Call: Tuesday Oct. 17, 2023