OSIdM4HE-Strategy&Org. call, 4pm - 5pm (ET) Friday, 8/12/2011
(Agenda layout shamelessly stolen in toto from Rob Carter's Provisioning Team Agenda plus a few formatting tricks from Matt Sargent of the Registries Team)
Participants
Who |
With |
Present |
Dedra Chamberlin |
Berleley & other CA edu's |
|
Jacob Farmer |
Indiana |
|
Keith Hazelton |
UW-Madison / Internet2 |
x |
RL "Bob" Morgan |
U Dub / Internet2 |
x |
Benn Oshrin |
Internet2 / Various |
x |
Hampton Sublett |
UC Davis |
x |
Bill Yock |
U Dub/Rice Board |
x |
1. Convene
2. Agenda Bash
3. Goals for our first month
- a. Vision: How would the Open Source IAM world evolve if everything happened the way we thought it should?
- Difference of views in registries team between Kuali perspective and I2 perspective on, e.g., importance of LoA
- Goal: Stock solutions that ppl can easily extend
- Eric optimistic with concerns; scope creep;
- RL: need someone from Access Mgmt to join this group
- BY: Advocate further Changing/morphing community dev. model to take better advantage of a broader mode of development; Golden rule governance, but RICE is a shared service model shaped by roadmap committee; Interest in broadening this model
- RL: Having RICE find new way to interact with Internet2, mutual influencing; likely participation will be aimed at HE in general.
BennO: Jasig/Sakai discussions, looking across portfolio of projects, theme is emerging need to adopt additional new ways of structuring, esp. whatever joint venture might come out of these efforts.
- HS: We're all trying to accomplish: Affordable, Pluggable IAM stack for IAM. Can we articulate a common goal.
- b. How do we achieve the vision? What do we have to do to assure alignment of real work with the vision?
- BY: Fundamental challenge to achieving these goals; you did address gaps, the overlap is more problematic (EricW: Grouper & Kim both have access management capabilities, because of the overlap, it's unlikely that one will go away
- HS: Having two solutions can be a good thing if they develop toward convergence.
- KH: Would having an inter-institutional collaboration use case help us ID the ways of handling overlap and co-exist; // w Oracle
- RL: Drastic rip and replace would not be a good thing
- HS: Where we might come together to write new functionality, we'd need to come up with a support model.
- BY: You also need to look at adoption of current projects, if one is not as widespread, it might need to be sidelined from further development.
- BO: market survey, then where there's a gap, what do we do? The concept of duplications of effort is not a big concern for him.
- RL: OS projects fall down on this. We don't know our market. Especially the smaller ones.
- RL, BO: Other groups are parts of the elephant. S&O has responsibility to take on the big lines and boxes
- RL: I2's less formal way of making investment decisions, and not a lot of resources to invest. New mgmt, perhaps new opportunities will emerge.
- c. Scope: What's on our list for work? What's not?
- c. Prioritization -- Are there crucial issues or choice points that need input "now"? IAM Market Survey: Who's using What to fill Which chunks of IAM functionality
- d. Develop recommendations on strategy and tactics for discussion by OSIdM4HE members at the September 16th all-hands meeting.
4. Organization
- a. Do we need a separate mailing list? Sure, why not?
- b. Are we the right people? Do we need more? Someone from the Access Management Team
- c. Shall we do weekly concalls, at least for a month? Yes
- d. Is this time of day acceptable? Yes
5. AIs for the next call
- RL'Bob' Documenting the gaps that have no team (yet). AuthN is one example.
- HamptonS Draft charter for S&O Team with thoughts on how we make progress toward our goals
- Keith Draft someone from the Access Management Team to join S&O so we have all teams represented on our calls
- Keith Create wiki page for our IAM Market Survey planning
- Keith Ask SteveO to create OSIdM4HE-strat@internet2.edu mailing list