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Notes and Action Items, CTAB Call of 31-Jan-2018


 

Attending

  • Brett Bieber, University of Nebraska (chair)
  • Tom Barton, U. Chicago and Internet2
  • Joanna Rojas, Duke
  • Ted Hanss, University of Michigan
  •  David Bantz, University of Alaska
  • Jon Miner, University of Wisc - Madison
  • Chris Hable, University of Michigan
  • Mary Catherine Martinez, InnoSoft
  • Ann West, Internet2
  • Emily Eisbruch, Internet2 

New Action Items 
[AI] (Emily)  put new members on CTAB sympa list,  provide private CTAB wiki access and
Invite CTAB members to Slack Channel on Baseline Expectations (done)

 
[AI] (Emily) get the new CTAB charter into the Doc Stewardship Repository, with date of closing of consultation (Done: see http://doi.org/10.26869/TI.94.1 )

 DISCUSSION

CTAB New Members             
• Welcome and Introductions


  • David Bantz, University of Alaska
  • Jon Miner, University of Wisc - Madison
  • Chris Hable, University of Michigan
  • Mary Catherine Martinez, InnoSoft


• Steering will approve new slate of CTAB members at next Steering call

• Brett has scheduled chats with new CTAB members

Resources:

◦ Many webinars are available linked from bottom of Assurance wiki here

◦      https://spaces.at.internet2.edu/display/InCAssurance/InCommon+Assurance+Program
◦ Scanning through the notes may be helpful
, minutes of AAC/CTAB are here:

◦       https://spaces.at.internet2.edu/display/InCCollaborate/InCommon+Assurance+Advisory+Committee+Minutes
◦ Baseline Expectations Documents, linked from here: https://spaces.at.internet2.edu/display/BE/Baseline+Expectations+for+Trust+in+Federation

AI (Emily)  put new CTAB members on CTAB sympa list,  provide private CTAB WIKI access and
Invite CTAB members to Slack Channel on Baseline Expectations (done)

Overview of FICAM work
• Trust Framework program from GSA

• NIST standards 800-63 , 4 levels of assurance
• InCommon Assurance program responded to level 1 and level 2 with bronze and silver certification

• The AAC was formed to manage the FICAM program within InCommon,
• Compliance was sometimes seen as cumbersome; uptake was by 6 campuses for bronze and silver, and there was small uptake of FICAM  from federal agencies

• 

• There is transition now to new FICAM program, but this seems to miss the mark for the Higher Ed community

• A few years ago the InCommon AAC  started developing more flexible profiles, including an MFA profile
 that led to the REFEDs MFA Profile https://refeds.org/profile/mfa
• Baseline Expectations is a move from “publish what you do” approach, to a community set of expectations approach

• It’s about managing risk 

• REFEDs Assurance Working Group is also doing work to respond to the failure of the FISMA approach https://wiki.refeds.org/display/GROUPS/Assurance+Working+Groupand developing a REFEDs assurance framework. Good idea for all CTAB members to subscribe to this list.  https://lists.refeds.org/sympa/info/refeds and https://lists.refeds.org/sympa/info/assurance 

• SIRTFI  https://refeds.org/sirtfi  another measure to increase trust in federation


Brett: likely the old approach to assurance (silver and bronze profiles) will be fading and CTAB will focus on the new, more flexible, more useful profiles and on Baseline Expectations

Improving the quality of the metadata in the InCommon Federation is part of Baseline Expectations

CTAB Charter
• Approved, ready for publishing:
• https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tfRjwDnF7M3IC63JqIZf4HLk84nKI0TdGAf4uxZWTHY/edit#
[AI] (Emily) take action to get the new CTAB charter into the Doc Stewardship Repository, with date of closing of consultation 
(Done: see http://doi.org/10.26869/TI.94.1    )

Baseline Expectations Webinars
• Webinar on Jan 24, 2018 went well.  Focused on impact to community of Baseline Expectations. What will IdPs and SPs need to do. Checklist to start evaluating your compliance

• Slides and recording are here:

• https://spaces.at.internet2.edu/display/BE/Baseline+Expectations+for+Trust+in+Federation
• Next webinar is Feb 21, 2018 on Health Checks, and automated checking on metadata in the InCommon Federation. 

• Nick Roy, InCommon Operations,  shared stats on current state of federation metadata, for the metadata items that can be checked automatically. 7% of orgs currently meet baseline expectations

• https://www.internet2.edu/news/detail/15152/
• Question to decide in future: When do we want InCommon ops to modify the federation manager to generate an error if there are issues with metadata not meeting Baseline Expectations?

• Third webinar March 7, 2018 will focus on legal issues - InCommon Participation Agreement changes.  

• Baseline Expectation Roadmap https://spaces.at.internet2.edu/display/BE/Baseline+Processes+Roadmap

Baseline Expectations  Communications
• Wiki: https://spaces.at.internet2.edu/display/BE/Baseline+Expectations+for+Trust+in+Federation

PA and FOPP Legal Changes (Ann)
• Internet2 Legal made a few edits to the Participation Agreement (PA) and the Federation Operating Practices (FOPP)

• InCommon Docs are here:

◦ https://www.incommon.org/policies.html
• 90 day notification period to start in March 2018

• Perhaps the end of the 90 day notice should be when when we change the federation manager.

• Provide warning prior to that

 

Branding issues as we update from AAC to CTAB
• email list name has been changed to CTAB, working through  other items

◦ https://www.internet2.edu/communities-groups/trust-identity/incommon-assurance-advisory-committee/
◦ https://www.incommon.org/about.html
◦ Change name of this AAC wiki page? https://spaces.at.internet2.edu/display/InCAssurance/Assurance+Advisory+Committee

CTAB F2F at Internet2  2018 Global Summit in San Diego? 
https://meetings.internet2.edu/2018-global-summit/
• Emily requested a one hour time slot as a placeholder

• Wed May 9, 2018 is a likely date


On Feb. 14 CTAB call, selection of co-chair will be on the agenda

Next CTAB Call:  Wed. Feb. 14, 2018