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  • Discussion continued from yesterday.
  • ECP use cases:
    • IMAP (Live@EDU example)
      • also activesync for Outlook and portable devices
      • Microsoft provides the ECP gateway, credentials go to MS, prefer to have ECP gateway at institution
    • Google support for ECP; currently need to send password hashes; outreach from InCommon to Google?
    • ECP PAM module
    • command-line & thick-client apps
    • smartphone campus apps (OSU work on this?)
    • PESC registry of web services
  • ECP authentication options: HTTP Basic Auth, X.509, Kerberos
    • DOE labs doing certificate-based authentication
      • DOEGrids test IdP accepts grid certificates
    • campus adoption of certificate-based authentication
    • most campuses today do password-based
    • concern: do clients support certs? most rich clients don't?
    • consider OAuth as an authentication mechanism for ECP
    • wide adoption of certificates in HPC/grid space
  • Shibboleth ECP configuration
  • What will the pushback be if we ask IdP administrators to enable ECP?
    • Suggestion: setup test SP environment to help them test ECP
    • IdP 2.3 support for ECP helps
    • Any risk to enabling ECP in IdP? Make sure you enable HTTPS (encrypted channel).
    • May not be ready to upgrade to IdP 2.3. (Note XSS vuln.)
  • Attribute release for ECP
    • How will consent work? uApprove is browser-based.
    • Consent when you download the client?
      • Example: command-line client from Debian distribution.
    • Consent build-in to the client?
  • Client configuration
    • IdP & SP discovery information
    • Downloadable configuration (from resource they want to access)
      • Bundle in discovery and consent at this point
      • Use browser as one-time on-boarding mechanism
  • ECP discovery: SAML metadata?
  • If SAML response is encrypted, how does ECP client handle it?
    • Does ECP client need to modify the authentication response before sending it to SP?
    • Ask Scott Koranda about this.
  • How to coordinate work / discuss?
    • Use shib-dev mailing list & Shibboleth wiki.

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