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April 15, 2009
In attendance:
Sujay Daniels,NJEdge.Net
John Krienke, Internet2/InCommon
Craig Stevensen, WiscNet
Andy Rosenzweig, Merit
Renee Frost, Internet2
Steve Carmody, Brown/Internet2
Gavin Hogan, SUNY
George Laskaris, NJEdge.Net (chair)
Ann West, Internet2
Garret Sern, EDUCAUSE
Mark Scheible, NC State
Steve Thorpe, MCNC
For this month's call we will focus on developing efforts to build a sta= tewide federation in North Carolina and have asked Mark Scheible from NC St= ate University describe the state's strategies and approaches as well as le= ssons learned in deploying a statewide federation.
Strategies from North Carolina
Mark Scheible, NC State
U of NC Federation
NC Trust Federation K-20 Pilot
Observations
Lessons Learned and Recommendations
Questions
Who sponsored K-12 at InCommon?
A. UNC at Chapel Hill
What challenges did you run into with K-12?
A. Student identifiers have been an issue, especially when they transfer f=
rom schools. Having an NC identifier for the entire state will allow studen=
ts to change school districts and eliminating numerous ids.
This begs the question whether there should be a national identifier, desp=
ite the "big brother concerns".
Which communities are you trying to identify during the pilot? Teachers?=
Students? Other communities?
A. Initial thought is for the students.
How far down will you go with the students having accounts they log-in w=
ith?
A. Don't know, but probably varies by school district.=
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Sounds like this is managed at the LEA level.
A. Varies widely by part of state you are in. (Steve Car=
mody) Every student in RI is assigned a unique identifier, which is used to=
track them from one district to another.
Sponsored K-12 with InCommon - how does that work? Is his something new?=
A. Basic premise for InCommon participation is higher ed are the gat=
ekeepers and the criteria for being a sponsored partner is that a higher ed=
institution needs their collaborations to grow in a particular direction. =
That had not occurred until the NC pilot. No separate MOU, same participati=
on agreement.
Are you planning on putting together a more formal presentation?
A. Yes, at the I2 meeting.
Importance of having a common attribute release policy? Can you address =
that?
A. Trying to develop one based on the community you are =
dealing with. Attribute release is something people are looking for recomme=
ndations on and something our community needs a few more use cases under ou=
r belts.
Chair's Concluding Remarks
Notes having BECTA back on another call. May be worth asking them specific=
areas we would like them to drill down on. In particular, scalability of K=
-12 IDPs and how they managed the rollout not only from a technical perspec=
tive, but how they manage the users.
Please send us a list of questions to share with BECTA.