35 people in addition to 4 of us

Most interested in hearing/talking about:
shibboleth, 
federated identities

highest req:
federated identities
free
level of assurance
duplicate matching
shared workflow engine
role inheritance and such is just management at the detail level

tools using now:
homegrown
grouper
sun identity mgr, oracle
active directory
? identity (didn't catch this?)
person registries home grown - ldap
neural and match matching
open registry (incubating jasig)
ms forefront mgr for provisioning

Bill's osidm4he slides - questions:
What is the gap btw kim and the registries work item today?
 -- kim, open registry, penn state, duplicate matching isn't in kim today

any thoughts about whether to extend kim or replace it?
kim services have to be compatible, with the commitment we've made
comment -- doesn't need to be one but if many, they work together
e.g., penn state integration btw grouper and kim (grouper team did)

what about small institutions that don't have the wherewithal to be involved, how to understand their needs?
Yale had that problem with CAS,
Kuali projects appear to be out of reach to the small schools - maybe we need to develop an outreach model/
contribution model - pay to play model which small schools can't meet, is there a lighter-weight contribution model (get the name of the guy who offered this - was the guy who was at Delta and has just moved to another small college in CA?)

Concerns?
time & resource commitment - looks like a greater stretch than what we've done before
idm open source hasn't been done, so it looks like a good needed effort - 
done separately,though, could be a problem
Will both Kuali and Internet 2 be willing to move forward?  (same timeline, shared/interoperable model)?
uc interested in letters of intent so they can muster uc commitment - uc currently hamstrung by current Oracle solution
wish you've gotten farther already (UT)
how about an integration group, must be very important, key piece
is it possible for an organization to have a member in each of the 4 streams?

1/3 have serious intent (show of hands), 2/3 here to just get information

What do you need to go/evaluate getting involved in this?
marketing material - 
gap analysis
Preliminary commitment list per work stream
sizing - if have 6 it can take this long, if 10 this long
what and when it is getting done
enable kis site with shibboleth - (pain to log in and have to do so over and over again)  cas can protect behind shibb
is internet2 also committed to get going on this?  (Kuali yes to registry, what is I2's commitment/plan?)