COmanage Call 5-Feb-2010

*Attending*

Heather Flanagan, Stanford (chair)
Ken Klingenstein, Internet2
Chris Hubing, Penn. State U
Jim Leous, Penn. State U.
Rebecca Wilson Lundin, Penn. State U.
Dan Pritts, Internet2
Ann West, Internet2
Steve Olshansky, Internet2
Emily Eisbruch, Internet2 (scribe)

*New Action Items*

[AI] (Ken) will set up a meeting with NIH around SMM.
[AI] (SteveO) will add Rebecca to the COmanage mailing lists and give her wiki access.
[AI] (SteveO) will coordinate a conference call for Rebecca, Michael, Chris, Jim and Heather to discuss the documentation project.
[AI] (SteveO & Ken) will write a job description for a COmanage point person. Heather and Danno and Michael will review it.

*Carry Over Action Items*

 [AI] (Tom) and (Ken) will discuss moving forward on incorporating the Grouper Lite UI into COmanage.
 [AI] (Ken) will inform the Dutch that the COmanage WG session will be held on Monday, April 26.
 [AI] (Jim) will discuss with Kevin possible CIC engagement with COmanage.
 [AI] (Jim) will arrange logistics for the tech writer and contact Renee with details.
 [AI] (Ken) will follow up with Niels about domesticating Adobe Connect.
 [AI] (Danno) will continue to pursue communication with U. Minnesota about domesticating Adobe Connect.
[AI] (Ken) will email the COmanage-dev group explaining how they can join the CollabIdM list.
[AI] (Heather) will resubmit the request for COmanage service for the Ivy+ Infrastructure.
[AI] (Michael, Heather, SteveO & StevenC) will work on solving issues with OpenMeetings.

**Discussion*

*Update on SMM Planning*

The COmanage BOF  at Internet2 Spring Member Meeting is scheduled for Monday morning, April 26.
Announcements from the SMM program committee about the schedule for track sessions will come around Feb 15.

*Other Updates*

- A call with SURFnet did not happen since the last COmanage call. Ken will chat with Niels at the upcoming  TERENA EMC2/Mobility meetings in Vienna.http://www.terena.org/activities/tf-mobility/meetings/21/
- Ken has been looking into getting the Grouper lite GUI integrated with COmanage.  This new Grouper GUI will be a good addition.

*NIH Interest in COmanage*

Ken reported that federated wikis are getting increasing use at NIH. Federated wiki users are asking for other applications (e.g., calendaring and meeting tools) to be added. Central IT at NIH is interested in learning more about COmanage. It would be helpful to meet with NIH people around SMM to demo and have conversations about COmanage.

[AI] (Ken) will set up a meeting with NIH around SMM. *Technical Writing Project* Rebecca, the Technical Writing specialist at Penn State, met with Jim and Chris and has been reading available materials about COmanage.

[AI] (SteveO) will add Rebecca to the COmanage mailing lists and give her wiki access.

[AI] (SteveO) will coordinate a conference call for Rebecca, Michael, Chris, Jim and Heather to discuss the documentation project.

*Hiring a COmanage Point Person*

Michael has been volunteering his time and doing an outstanding job moving the COmanage service forward. Looking ahead, there is a need to hire a dedicated technical point person for COmanage. This will be especially important as we look forward to the SDCI NSF grant response.

Skills and qualifications would include:

- Experience with virtualization
- Programming experience, interest in doing coding
- Flexibility and ability to work with many tools that interoperate.
- Experience as an integrator/customizer
- Ability to become a domesticator of applications and to train/guide VOs in domesticating applications.
- GUI development ability

[AI] (SteveO & Ken) will write a job description for a COmanage point person. Heather and Danno and Michael will review it.

Ken raised question: Do we want to maintain a repository of domesticates apps and some criteria about degree of domestication?

Ken noted there is a lot of conversation about federated SSH. Steven and Tom have been monitoring this and tracking the various approaches.

*NSF SDCI Proposal*

Ken provided a broad outline of the NSF SDCI proposal and the involvement of VOs. A more capable LDAPPC is one of the deliverables.

Ken asked if we should still focus on creating a COmanage VM or "VM in the cloud." One of the obstacles is that maintenance and support issues are major, especially as applications within the VM get upgrades. It was observed that there are groups that would like COmanage in the VM context. The decision was to include a COmanage VM in our plans, though this is not the highest priority item. It will be towards the end of the grant cycle.

Another model for COmanage is to offer it on a virtual hosting service, a service center for a cluster of VOs. Penn State is evaluating this option.

For the SDCI grant, should we be thinking about priv. mgmt across multiple applications?

Heather:  The COmanage group can work in conjunction with the MACE-paccman group.  We can be a test case for recommendations developed by that MACE-paccman group.

Next Meeting: Friday, 19-Feb-2010 at 2 pm ET
Ken will not be available for this meeting.
This could be an opportunity for a call to focus on the documentation project.

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