COmanage Call 13-Nov-09
*Attending*
Heather Flanagan, Stanford (chair)
Ken Klingenstein, Internet2
Steven Carmody, Brown U.
Tom Barton, U. Chicago
Jim Leous, Penn State
Chris Hubing, Penn State
Dan Pritts, Internet2
Renee Frost, Internet2
George Brett, Internet2
Steve Olshansky, Internet2
Emily Eisbruch, Internet2 (scribe)
*New Action Items*
[AI] (SteveO) will talk with TomB about how the Grouper Lite UI in Grouper 1.5 will fit into COmanage.
[AI] (Ken) will check with Michael about contracting with the Penn State graduate student to work on COmanage documentation.
[AI] (Jim) will work with Renee on logistics for the Penn State graduate student documenting COmanage.
[AI] Ken will follow up with Shilen about domesticating Adobe Connect.
[AI] (Danno) will contact U. Minnesota about domesticating Adobe Connect.
[AI] (Ken) will email the COmanage-dev group explaining how they can join the CollabIdM list.
[AI] Ken will contact the Dutch to inquire about the possible European effort to set up a conference on collaboration platform projects.
*Carry Over Action Items*
[AI] (Heather) will resubmit the request for COmanage service for the Ivy+ Infrastructure.
[AI] (Michael, Heather, SteveO & StevenC) will work on solving issues with OpenMeetings.
[AI] (Michael) will work on integrating simpleSAMLphp and Foodle.
[AI] (SteveO, Ken, and Michael) will follow up on updating the WAYF to accommodate international participants.
*Discussion*
*Ken's Report*
Ken has been using COmanage to set up the Collaboration IdM group, and the service has worked quite well. He believes the upcoming integration of Foodle (federated Doodle) will make COmanage an even more attractive package. Michael is working on bringing simpleSAMLphp into COmanage, in order to facilitate Foodle integration.
Sites must be running a Shibboleth 2.x IdP (or another IdP supporting SAML 2) in order to successfully interface with simpleSAMLphp in COmanage. Sites still running Shib 1.3 will have difficulties. Steven noted that as of next June 30 2010, the Shibboleth team will no longer support Shib 1.3 (EOL). InCommon has started encouraging institutions to upgrade to Shib 2.x. However, it may take a lot of effort to get every institution to upgrade.
Ken has largely figured out how to work with Grouper within COmanage and finds it acceptable, SteveO will talk with TomB about how the new Lite UI available in December (with the Grouper 1.5 release) will improve the group management experience within COmanage.
[AI] (SteveO) will talk with TomB about how the Grouper Lite UI in Grouper 1.5 will fit into COmanage.
Ken is satisfied with asking members of a collaborative group to register with COmanage in order to create user accounts which can then be added to groups, and this removes the earlier concern about needing an "invite" feature.
Heather noted that she has been testing OpenMeetings web conferencing within COmanage and finds it reasonable and acceptable, although there are still some minor kinks to be worked out.
Ken asked what might be required to domesticate a tool such as Asterisk VoIP and integrate it with COmanage.
Ken noted that he plans to talk with Internet2 staff about moving COmanage to the next level, probably in January. A member meeting program committee was suggested as a next test group for COmanage, keeping in mind the previously established guidelines of identifying a project to use/test COmanage that
1 ) is not ongoing, will expire, and
2) is fault tolerant
Ken suggested that one or two people within Internet2 could become COmanage collabmins to assist in the COmanage use and testing.
Heather noted the need for COmanage documentation. Jim said he has a Penn State graduate student interested in a technical writing internship.
[AI] (Ken) will check with Michael about contracting with the Penn State graduate student to work on COmanage documentation.
[AI] (Jim) will work with Renee on logistics for the Penn State graduate student documenting COmanage.
Jim suggested that if things move forward with the graduate student, a good approach would be for Chris to set up a COmanage instance and for the grad student to "look over his shoulders" and document the process.
*Adobe Acrobat Connect Domestication*
Internet2 uses the hosted Adobe Acrobat Connect service, as this was most economical. Steven suggested that Duke may have experience with domesticating Adobe Connect.
[AI] Ken will follow up with Shilen about domesticating Adobe Connect.
Dan noted that U. Minnesota uses Adobe Connect.
[AI] (Danno) will contact U. Minnesota about domesticating Adobe Connect.
*Updates from Other Organizations and Meetings*
Ken spoke to Chad of Project Bamboo at the EDUCAUSE meeting in Denver. Project Bamboo's plan calls for something like a COmanage instance.
CSG
At the CSG meeting in January, a four-hour workshop is planned on Collaborative Platforms, to be coordinated by Michael, Ken and a few others, with Michael taking the lead.
http://www.stonesoup.org/Meetings/1001/agenda1001.html#adda
The probable format is three or four presentations with discussion. It would be good to have a COmanage example at that workshop. The CSG workshop coordinators want to identify someone to present on Google Wave. Chris is savvy in this field and would be interested in participating. Ken will talk with Michael about this.
*CollabIdM Group*
Ken is coordinating the CollabIdM group. One probable topic is creating a registry of domesticated (or domesticatable) applications and identifying other touch points. Ken asked if there is a touch point around metadata aggregation from multiple federations. The WAYF on the spaces wiki was discussed, and currently the international federations are added manually.
[AI] (Ken) will email the COmanage-dev group explaining how they can join the CollabIdM list.
Heather noted that SURFnet had previously mentioned interest in convening a discussion about the collaboration environment.
[AI] Ken will contact the Dutch to inquire about the possible European effort to set up a conference on collaboration platform projects.
Next Meeting: Friday, Dec 11 at 2pm ET.