COmanage-dev Call 16-Oct-09

*Attending*

Heather Flanagan, Stanford (Chair)
Ken Klingenstein, Internet2
Steven Carmody, Brown
Jim Leous, Penn State
Dan Pritts, Internet2
Ann West, EDUCAUSE/Internet2
Steve Olshansky, Internet2

*New Action Items*

[AI] (Ken and SteveO) will discuss separating the 2 groups and appropriate website updates
[AI] (SteveO) will schedule the CollabIdM calls
[AI] (SteveO, Ken, and Michael) will follow up on updating the WAYF to accommodate international participants
[AI] (Michael) will investigate the new Grouper Lite UI

*Carry Over Action Items*
[AI] (Ken) will talk with Gwen to explore a COmanage demo geared to iPlant.
[AI] Tom and Michael will edit the PowerPoint diagrams to clarify issues.
[AI] (Ken) will work on COmanage scripting.
[AI] (SteveO++) will put together a demo video.
[AI] (Ken) will contact our NSF program officer about how HUBzero (hubzero.org) is being promoted within the NSF community
[AI] (Ken) will ask his contact at the Norwegian Federation about Foodle.
[AI] (Ken) will talk with Lois about Fluid involvement in improving the COmanage GUI, scheduling it for later in the year.

*Feedback and Outcomes from FMM*

There is growing community interest in the collaboration platform concept, as shown by the presentations at FMM on Project OZ (Duke) and Sympa.
Ken reported that MG has said that the standard for domesticated applications is

1) Federated identity access for the applications
2) Ability to create group managed access control for things like wikis.
Those capabilities will cover many of the first sets of use cases that we'll have.

Ken stated there have been recent conversations about the scope of permission management to be in Grouper versus perMIT and other products.

*New Collab IdM List and Calls*

It has been decided to create a new Collaboration IdM list to include COmanage developers and other project developers such as from Project Oz, Sympa, and other groups.

Issues for the new Collab IdM list:
- framework
- domestication of applications
- approaching application developers w a consistent story on schema, use of attributes, provisioning and de-provisioning accounts
- points of consistency between projects
Issues for the ongoing COmanage-dev list:
- COmanage as a service
- COmanage as an appliance

The best time for the new Collab IdM calls would most likely be 8 a.m. Pacific Time. These calls might be biweekly at first and then monthly later.

[AI] (Ken and SteveO) will discuss separating the 2 groups and appropriate website updates
[AI] (SteveO) will schedule the CollabIdM calls
Heather will develop an initial agenda for the Collab IdM group and share it with Ken.

*WAYF Issues*

The WAYF needs to be updated to cover international participants.

[AI] (SteveO, Ken, and Michael) will follow up on updating the WAYF to accommodate international participants

Steven noted that on Spaces wiki there is a list of federations, the Swiss federation is not listed. Also, there is one IdP in Switzerland that Spaces has a bilateral agreement with and it's not on the list.
Ken stated that there is work ongoing on getting a standard contract. We could also depend on a spirit of collaboration (ad hoc handshake agreements).

*Misc.*

Ken reported that there was a recent positive call with NSF folks. There will be discussions between NSF and CIC around Federated SharePoint.

Jim noted there was interest in COmanage at the CIC Meeting. Also, several collaborative science groups have approached Jim with interest.

Carry over action Items were reviewed and pared down. Ken expressed hope that the Grouper Simplified UI could be incorporated into COmanage to increase ease of use.

 [AI] (Michael) will investigate the new Grouper Lite UI.

Next Meeting: Friday, Oct. 30 at 2pm ET

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