Minutes: COmanage-TAC call 17-Aug-2012

Attending

Heather Flanagan, Internet2 (Chair)  
Keith Hazelton, University of Wisconsin - Madison  
Scott Koranda, U. Wisconsin - Milwaukee (LIGO)  
Benn Oshrin, Internet2
Emily Eisbruch, Internet2, scribe  

New Action Item

[AI] (Keith) will re-ping the IceCube representative regarding VAMP attendance

DISCUSSION

2012 FMM Plans

COmanage BOF at FMM
 Monday, October 1, 2012
 12:00 PM - 1:00 PM
  http://events.internet2.edu/2012/fall-mm/agenda.cfm?go=session&id=10002531&event=1149
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Recursive Collaboration: Combining Collaboration Tools to Support e-Science (program session)
  Thursday, October 4, 2012
  8:45 AM - 10:00 AM
  Speakers: Heather, ScottK, Remco
  http://events.internet2.edu/2012/fall-mm/agenda.cfm?go=session&id=10002574&event=1149
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VAMP Update

http://www.terena.org/activities/vamp/ws1/

- 51 people registered to date
- (update: 63 registered as of 23-Aug-2012)
- Heather and Neils have been working on program/agenda
   http://www.terena.org/activities/vamp/ws1/programme1.html
- Still contacting US attendees to attend under the NSF grant
- Scott has suggested names of additional potential candidates

[AI] (Keith) will re-ping the IceCube representative regarding VAMP attendance

SURFnet Collaboration

In a formal message to internet2 leadership, SURFnet has requested continued collaboration on SURFconext and COmanage.

CoCoA and CMP interop

- Benn and Scott have been working with Martin at SURFnet on interoperability between COmanage and SURFconext
- This work has been going well
- they have identified a demo script and integration points
- added provisional support to COmanage registry to expose group and person info
     - using VOOT
        https://github.com/andreassolberg/voot/wiki/Protocol
       - note: VOOT can't express complicated group structures the way Grouper does
       - but VOOT covers many use cases
- Getting SURFnet IdP and demo SP to communicate
- Will demo this at VAMP

Social Identity WG and COmanage

https://spaces.at.internet2.edu/display/socialid/Home

Q: Is there overlap in the work of the SocialID WG with COmanage?

A: Yes, at this point there is becoming some overlap.
Previously the focus of the Social ID WG was on Social to SAML Gateway.

Q: Is the Social ID WG drifting towards a COmanage model?
A: Yes, most likely.

- Keith will serve as a link between the Social ID group and the COmanage TAC
- It's still early in the process for the Social ID group

Suggestions to promote alignment and awareness:
  - Encourage the social ID group members to check out the COamanage sessions at FMM
  - Have a joint (Social ID WG and COmanage) call in mid to late September
  - Have discussions at ACAMP (Benn will attend ACAMP)

Account Linking

Keith's emails on account linking emerged from his work with Project Bamboo.

Q: What is the  COmanage status these days on account linking?

A: Benn: account linking has been discussed in relation to potential COmanage demos
- we want to show enrollment into a VO
- problems of getting EPPN out of IDP... makes the demo less smooth and fun
- so possibly use social ID for enrollment
- it comes down to authentication mechanism
- behind the scenes, from the COmanage registry standpoint, whether it's a gmail address or an institutional email, they are both part of one record.

- the data model COmanage supports today for multiple identifiers is manual data entry by an administrator

- ideally in the future COmanage will facilitate
     -user authenticates to IdP A
     -user authenticates to IdP B
     -linking occurs

Next COmanage-TAC call: Friday, 21-Sept-2012 at 2pm ET

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